Sourdough Pizzas – As Good As Home Oven Pizzas Get!
February 27, 2010 3:51 am FoodBack in July 08, I wrote a post entitled Making Your Own GREAT Pizzas At Home. The title was not an exaggeration. I had experimented with multiple pizza recipes before developing one I particularly liked, and with further tweaking over a period of months was consistently getting results that I was pretty pleased with. My pizzas were on a par with all but one of my favourite local pizzerias, and given the restrictions of a domestic oven, I was chuffed with that.
Naturally, I slipped into evangelical mode and posted my recipe on the web for anyone interested. The response was underwhelming, although a few folk emailed me privately to enthuse after trying the recipe. But there were hundreds of pizza recipes on the web, I reasoned – why should massive tribes of pizza pundits flock to my blog? I sulked vaguely for a short time, then got on with enjoying my home-baked lil’ luverlies.
That was not the end of the story – not by a long way. Driven by a restless and at times self-defeating perfectionism, I continued to experiment with my pizzas, but could not improve on the recipe I posted. Then I happened upon a remarkable site of obsession and instruction that set me back on my increasingly well-padded bum with a jolt: Jeff Varasano’s Famous New York Pizza Recipe.
It took all of 20 seconds browsing to conclude that Varasano was a bona fide pizza maniac! He had travelled the world in search of the best pizzas, researched the Italian masters, and wrote in a didactic tone that resisted challenge.
As I pored over the site, it quickly became apparent that the man was no web blowhard. He was obsessed with pizza, and a genuine authority. His quest for the optimum pizza made mine look petty indeed. And one of his paragraphs seemed to point an accusatory finger directly at me!
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There are about a hundred books and internet recipes that claim to give an authentic or secret pizza dough recipe. Oddly, while many claim to be secret or special, they are practically all the same. Here it is in summary. If you see this recipe, run screaming:
Sprinkle a yeast packet into warm water between 105-115 F and put in a teaspoon of sugar to feed it. Wait for it to foam up or ‘proof’. Add all your flour to a Kitchen Aid heavy duty mixer, then add the yeast and salt. Now mix until it pulls away from the side of the bowl. Coat with oil and leave in a warm place until it doubles in bulk, about 1-2 hours. Punch down, spread on a peel with some cornmeal to keep it from sticking and put it on the magical pizza stone that will make this taste just like Sally’s in your 500F oven.
I dunno who Sally is, but I do know that the dough recipe Varasano was dissing with such contempt was pretty close to mine! And I had to admit that his claim was correct that the numerous dry yeast pizza dough recipes strewn over the web are, indeed, pretty samey. I had made a few small changes, including adding a little rye to the dough, but really, my tweaks were just tweaks. Now, here was someone claiming he had something different, more authentic, better!
I read the site and re-read it, and the excitement mounted. He was advocating using sourdough starter in the dough! I had recently started baking sourdough bread at home, and was already an addicted breadhead. Anything sourdough was electrically charged for me. Add pizza and the equation was combustible.
On the edge of spontaneous immolation, I spoke sternly to myself. I’d be reduced to smoking ashes soon enough, relatively speaking (which hopefully means a couple of quality decades ahead yet!). So I calmed down to hyper, and set off on a new quest for a home-baked pizza that smashed through the dry yeast barriers to new levels of yumdom.
Jeff Varasano’s recipe was my starting point, and I fully acknowledge him for showing me the way, the truth and the light of home-baked pizzas.
I adhered as closely as possible to his recipe and directions at first, then began to experiment until further tweaks seemed counterproductive. In other words, I think these sourdough pizzas are now about as good as domestic kitchen pizzas get. And yes, I’m gonna share the lurve, right here, right now…
I’ve slightly increased Varasano’s recommended dough hydration, and have adapted his technique to suit my preference for hand-mixing (he uses an electric mixer). This adaptation has necessitated including a small proportion of olive oil in the dough – if anything, I think this enhances the flavour. My topping preparation is also a bit different from Jeff’s.
I stopped short of following his recommendation to tamper with the oven to elevate its maximum temperature to 500C! While I admire and respect that sort of fanaticism, I quietly contend that it is entirely possible to turn out wonderful thin-crust traditional-style pizzas from an unmodded domestic oven. Not charred at the edges and super-light, as is only possible at 500C+, but still up with the best I’ve had at commercial venues, and immeasurably superior to the crappy things franchises like Dominos, Pizza Hut, etc sell by the millions (how’s that for lowering the bar?). Not as good as the incredible thin-crust ones I had from an old woodfired oven pizzeria near the Trevi Fountain in Rome, but not far off, either. I say this not out of boast, but as a pizza tragic (although not on Jeff’s level!) speaking on a wavelength shared by others of my kind. You’ve gotta try this!
Alright, here we go. You’ll need a sourdough starter, which if you’re starting from scratch will take 7 to 14 days to develop to full leavening capacity. Follow the excellent directions here, and you can’t go wrong.
In fact, you may get a whole lot more than you bargained for. An active wild yeast starter is the key to a wondrous new world not only of knockout pizzas, but of home-baked artisan breads and other goodies… if you choose to open that door. I strongly recommend that you do! See these previous posts:
Sourdough Rising – The Home Artisan Bread Baking Revolution
Baking Sourdough Bread At Home: A Beginner’s Guide.
Sourdough Pizza
Equipment:
- Large plastic mixing bowl
Plastic dough scraper
Small, round plastic Glad containers (or similar) with lids
Pizza peel or back of cookie baking sheet
Pizza stone
Dough Ingredients (1 pizza)
Multiply ingredient weights by however many pizzas you want to make, or re-scale using bakers’ % provided in right column:
| Filtered water | 110 gm | 68% |
| Pizza flour (I use Anchor) | 162.5 gm | 100% |
| Salt | 5 gm (or to taste) | 2-3.5% |
| Ripe sourdough starter* | 15 gm | 9% |
| Instant dry yeast | 0.5 gm (a pinch or two) | 0.3% |
| Olive oil | 1 tablespoon, or a bit more |
*I use a 100% hydration white starter, or rye/white flour starter. The proportion of starter used here is very small, so the starter hydration is not crucial.
Dough Method (as stated, I do all mixing by hand):
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1. Mix all ingredients except salt, cover and rest for 20-40 mins (autolyse).
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2. Add salt, and do 20 or 30 stretch-and-folds in bowl with a plastic dough scraper.
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3. Pour about 1 tbls olive oil on to bench surface, scrape dough on to bench, knead/squelch between fingers and stretch this way and that until oil begins to be absorbed (2-3 minutes). Change kneading method to “air kneading” (slapping dough repeatedly on bench).
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4. If sticking too much during air kneading, add more oil to bench surface and repeat 3.
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5. Repeat 4 until gluten is well-developed and dough is smooth and stretchy (but it will still be quite a wet dough). This should take about 5 minutes in total, but always go by dough feel. Return dough to lightly oiled mixing bowl, cover, and rest 20 mins or so.
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6. Divide dough into however many pizzas you’re making, using a scale to ensure each piece is equal in weight.
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7. Roll into balls and transfer each into its own small lightly oiled plastic container, roll around to cover evenly with oil, and put on lid.
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8. After short rest, transfer to fridge. Retard fermentation in fridge 2-3 days (I prefer 3).
Preparing pizza
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1. Take dough out of fridge about 1 hour before baking (pre-heat oven and pizza stone to max temperature possible during this time). When dough has returned to room temperature (45 minutes or so, but could be shorter or longer, depending on ambient temperature), empty one dough ball on to moderately floured surface. Forget about showing off that pizza dough tossing technique you’ve been working on – this dough is far too wet for that. Instead, gently and gradually stretch the dough evenly with your fingers, working from the centre out, leaving a small rim at edges. Be firm but not rough – the dough should be very manageable and stretchy, but be careful not to stretch it so thin it tears.
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2. When at the size and thickness you want, transfer to semolina-sprinkled peel (or back of cookie sheet). This transfer process can be a bit tricky. I get my partner to lift one side of dough while I lift the other. It will distort in shape in transit, so re-shape when on peel (not always easy – but who cares if it ends up ‘rustic’ in shape, anyway?). Keep giving the peel a shake to make sure the dough is not sticking. If it does stick, work a little more semolina under the sticking part. It is vital to keep checking that it is not sticking as you put the toppings on. I have made the mistake of assuming a tiny bit of sticking shouldn’t matter, that the weight of the pizza would free it for launching with a bit of jerking of the inclined peel and send it sliding cleanly on to the pizza stone – I was spectacularly wrong! (The stuck part remained anchored to the peel while the toppings and rest of the dough ended up in a mess on the hot pizza stone – try cleaning that up after you stubbornly went ahead and decided it was a sort of open calzone you were baking rather than a pizza!). Yup, if the dough sticks to the peel AT ALL, EDGE SOME SEMOLINA UNDER THE PROBLEMATIC PART UNTIL IT DOES NOT STICK ANY LONGER!!
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3. Drip olive oil over the dough and spread it evenly with your fingers. Next, swirl a bit of tomato sauce over surface and thinly spread. Quickly assemble your preferred toppings. KEEP TOPPINGS LIGHT! Then transfer to pizza stone in maxed-out pre-heated oven.
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4. Bake about 8 mins (note: the thicker the dough and spread of toppings, the longer it will take to bake; I like thin crust pizzas lightly topped, so mine only take 8 mins @ 250C).
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5. I like to serve mine with freshly ground black pepper, and scattered with torn basil leaves, with some chopped fresh chillies in quality extra virgin olive oil spooned over.
Toppings:
See: Making Your Own GREAT Pizzas At Home.
And remember, for thin-crust traditional-style pizzas, LESS IS MORE. Load the toppings on and you risk ending up with a soggy, half-cooked pizza. Bake it longer to compensate, and the rim will be over-baked and too brittle.
I don’t take great pics – too impatient to start eating! These don’t do justice to these pizzas, but will give some idea of the way they turn out (NB: I don’t even try to char mine – that’s best left for high-temp wood-fired or pro ovens). And unfortunately, I haven’t gotten around to taking a crumb shot showing just how light and airy these sourdough pizza bases are.



Yes, the degree of difficulty of these pizzas is higher than that of the dry yeast versions. Yes, the time involved is days, not hours. And yes – it is worth the extra effort!
I don’t see myself going back to dry yeast pizza dough, but there is a short-cut alternative for those who might baulk at beginning a wild yeast starter culture just to make pizzas: a biga or poolish, which is basically a starter made using commercial yeast (dry or compressed).
Whether you use a natural or commercial yeast pre-ferment, the secret to more complex, developed flavours is to retard fermentation of the dough overnight or longer in the fridge.
I’m not much interested in exploring the use of a commercial yeast biga. Why would I be, when I have a gloriously active wild yeast starter that I fawn over like a pet and that serves me so well? As ever, though, the choice is yours. Just don’t harbour the delusion (as I did before I knew better) that those dry yeast pizza bases are as good as it gets – they ain’t!
Sourdough pizzas are top of the wozzer. Try ‘em!
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Bananaman :
Date: February 27, 2010 @ 12:56 pm
Long live the art of sourdough and more importantly, the culture of people cooking for themselves.
Perhaps the pendulum is now swinging back from the days when apartments in the US were being built without kitchens (I can’t prove that this was the case in the 80s and 90s so it could be a false memory)to an earlier time.
As the late, great Sam Orr put it “Twenty years ago even the most sophisticated household existed on butcher’s meat, freshvegetables and bread, butter, milk, eggs and cream that were delivered either by individual vendors or small businesses….. Processed foods for the normal household woud be limited to tinned fruit, bulk biscuits, jams, cordials and that old ever-ready pair, Socra salmon and Bronte lambs tongues.”
Baking your own bread is taking it a fair way further than Orr’s recollections but then again, bread in the 1950s and earlier was far less of an industrial product than it is today – it was proved for longer and had a lower glycaemic index.
In any case, what price the deep and almost visceral pleasure you seem to get from baking bread and then enjoyng the fruits of your labours?
Rolan Stein :
Date: February 27, 2010 @ 5:04 pm
Well said, Bananaman. And yeah, the profound satisfaction and pleasure to be derived from baking your own bread for yourself and others – and especially, I say, sourdough – cannot be quantified in any but the most personal terms.
And under ‘bread’, I include pizzas.
Cheers
R
Mike Lucas :
Date: March 16, 2010 @ 2:26 am
Hey Ross
(this comment duplicated on sourdough.com)
Just wanted to say thanks for this post, I’m a semi-serious home pizza maker myself and now that I have a sourdough culture going, I’m really looking forward to making sourdough pizza. I hadn’t seen Varasano’s recipe before — I’ve mostly just used my dad’s tried and true recipe that I’ve tweaked over time. As good as my pizza is I can definitely say it falls into Varasano’s “run screaming” category…
Anyway yours looks great, glad to see someone used normal home oven temps and got good results. Even more important, glad to see Varasano’s behemoth recipe/advice distilled down to something manageable!
My oven (electric convection) goes to 500F = 260C. I was also thinking I could try the convection(fan-assist) which may act like a somewhat hotter temp, though maybe that would affect the toppings more than the crust. I do know my convection is supposed to be ‘true convection’, i.e. it has an actual element built into the fan, although that may be more for manufacturer marketing than real benefit.
But I don’t think I will be cutting my self-clean safety latch off anytime soon — though I do wish I could override the oven to go higher than 500F!
Thanks again
Mike
MARA :
Date: March 17, 2010 @ 3:40 pm
hey thanks for all this info on Pizza dough & Breads! We just had 40 people over on Sat nigth for a Birthday ‘Make your own Pizza night’ – my H & I make the bases then everyone tops them & into the over wood fired oven they go. Just getting into the dough receipes now & tweeking so will take note! Cheers
Rolan Stein :
Date: March 19, 2010 @ 10:23 am
Hi Mike
Sorry about this delay in responding – a bit slack lately.
Thanks for your kind acknowledgment. Pls post back when you’ve tried this SD pizza for yourself. I am constantly amazed at just how good it is when I get it just right (which is not all the time…lots of variables involved).
Re having the convection fan on: yes, it does give you a higher oven temp, but I find you still need around 8 minutes, and it dries out the toppings. I never use the fan, either for pizzas or bread. Always worth experimenting yourself, though, as ovens have their idiosyncrasies.
Cheers!
R
Rolan Stein :
Date: March 19, 2010 @ 10:28 am
Hi Mara, and thanks for your comment.
Fun birthday party idea! And o you fortunate soul to have a wood-fired oven. That’s been a dream of mine for many years – way before they became commercially available. I was actually considering starting a backyard WFO building business, but as with all my business ideas it came and went and a couple of years later others put it into action. Sigh…
I can only imagine how good this SD pizza would be coming out of a WFO @ 500C – 2 mins baking time, and you should end up with the lightest of crusts, charred a little at the outer edges. If you try it, pls lemme know how it turns out.
Many happy pizza bakes to you!
spice and more :
Date: March 31, 2010 @ 10:48 am
Hey well done on experimenting with the “masters” pizza recipe. I remember the (slightly shocked) sense of awe I felt when I first stumbled upon his site. The first time I tried it I was too impatient to wait the three or more days of resting in the fridge – disaster. One forgotten ball of dough at the back of the fridge discovered five days later turned out a magnificent pizza. Since then i have had mixed results with a modified version of his recipe. My latest discovery is to cook them on a pizza stone in my new webber gas bbq which has a lid. I can crank the temperature right up and keep it there. So if you have a bbq with a lid give it a try. (I too have been lusting after a wood fired oven for too many years to count!). I will try your recipe next time with the tiny bit of commercial yeast. I have only done sourdough so far.
Rolan Stein :
Date: March 31, 2010 @ 2:40 pm
Hi spice and more, and thanks for your comment.
I’m not sure if Varasano really qualifies as a “master” pizza maker (some of the reviews from folk who have sampled his pizzas at his commercial outlet are less than ecstatic) – but there’s no doubt he is a bona fide authority due to his exhaustive research and fanatical quest for pizza perfection.
And there’s no doubt that this sourdough recipe yields outstanding results, better than any dry yeast version I have tried (and I’ve tried and experimented with quite a few).
I don’t have a BBQ with lid, unfortunately, so won’t be able to try that.
By all means, give my method a go, and why not try it with your BBQ as well? I’d love some feedback on how that compares with 8 mins in a maxed-out domestic oven.
NB: I have tweaked my dough hydration to the point of finding the optimal consistency for the flour I use. My simple modus operandi was to start with Varasano’s dough mix, and increase the hydration each time I made pizza (by reducing the flour by 5 grams per time). Eventually, I reduced it 5 grams too much, and ended up with a dough that was just that bit too difficult to work with at the final stage, and gave no better results in terms of lightness, openness of crumb and flavour.
However, while my mix is perfect for my flour, you will probably find you need to tweak the flour quantity a little to find the hydration sweet spot for the flour you use.
The big breakthrough in my method is the use of the olive oil during the kneading stage. This is the factor that makes Varasano’s recipe work well for my hand-mixed dough. If you use an electric mixer, as Varasano does, you might as well just follow his mix and tweak from there.
Anyway, lemme know how you go.
Cheers
R
PS: I have tried this recipe without the addition of the tiny quantity of instant dry yeast, and while the finished pizza base retains its fantastic flavour, it’s not quite as light or airy. Still nice, though.
spice and more :
Date: March 31, 2010 @ 2:49 pm
oh yeah I wrote “master” with my tongue firmly in my cheek! Obsessed is more like it.
I am not that sophisticated with my SD baking sadly. Particularly so since both my electronic scales died untimely deaths. Both expensive ones and I don’t want to fork out another $300 for a replacement. So I can’t really measure in 5gram increments. I tend to prefer mixing by hand too so I will try the olive oil approach…and the addition of instant yeast. Both things that are new to my current favourite recipe. I have found that the three or more days in the fridge is the biggest factor that influences taste, crumb and general behaviour of the dough. The one that I had forgotten in the back of the fridge for five days was the best one yet! The bbq does give it a nice charred sort of edge and the base cooks beautifully with all that heat underneath. I must try my standard oven without the fan as per your response to another comment. I am struggling to get a decent crust (that does not get soggy within a few hours) on my sourdough bread at the moment. That might help (?)
rolanstein :
Date: April 1, 2010 @ 3:17 pm
Hey spice and more, I bake SD bread several times per week, and I use a cheap set of digital scales I got from Target after noticing that Choice Magazine recommended them as a value buy. They cost under $50 and measure accurately to within a gram. They do use batteries, but that’s the only downside. Otherwise, I couldn’t be happier with them.
I can help with the soggy crusts you’re getting with your SD bread. Pls email.
Maybe you can help me with an absolute killer vindaloo or Madras curry chicken recipe? I have done a lot of Indian cooking, but just can’t get a genuine vindaloo/Madras curry (ie: without using commercial paste or curry powder additions to my spice mix) to pack a massive flavour punch like the really good ones I had in India, Malaysia and – wait for it – London.
So, pls email me (I can’t find an email address on your blog site, or I would email you).
Cheers
R
Lara Ann :
Date: April 20, 2010 @ 11:23 pm
Hi Roland
I have made these twice and am very pleased with the results after having a disappointing experience with another sourdough pizza recipe. I followed your technique but left out the yeast and baked them on the hotplate in my barbeque. Superb! Light and crispy bases that complement the thin fresh toppings that we prefer. Have made Jamie Oliver pizzas for years – tasty but slightly bready for my liking. The fridge rest in your recipe gives the dough manageability and predictability. Went on a course in February but my sourdough loaf success has been a bit hit or miss so far.
Thanks for the article.
Rolan Stein :
Date: April 21, 2010 @ 2:41 am
Hi Lara Ann, and thanks for your acknowledgment. Glad to hear that you also find the flavour of this dough superb.
I’ve used Jamie O’s pizza recipe also, and agree with you about the ‘breadiness’ aspect. Really, it’s just another of many such pizza dough recipes – dare I say it, the very ones Jeff Varasano advises us to “run screaming from”!! Mr Varasano is a pizza fanatic and extremist of the first order, of course. Standard dry yeast pizza doughs like Jamie’s are nice enough…but this sourdough version is way better. The retardation in the fridge allows flavours to develop in all their complexity, not to mention the beautiful flavour qualities that only natural leaven can impart to a dough.
I’ve also made this dough without the added dry yeast. When you’re baking in a domestic oven, I think the spring is a little lacking without the dry yeast spike, but since you’re using a BBQ hotplate I imagine you’re getting a higher intensity of heat, which would push up the dough as only higher temperatures can.
Just curious – do you bake one side on the hotplate, then flip and remove the base to add toppings to the baked side before browning the underside to finish off? I know lots of people swear by BBQ hotplate pizzas, but I’m a bit put off by the interruption to the bake. Also, I imagine you have to grill the toppings once the pizza base is done?
By the way, I’m right with you on light toppings. Less is certainly more with pizzas! The real star of the show with pizzas is the dough, and as you’d be well aware, weighing it down with toppings ain’t no good if you’re after a light, airy, evenly-baked base (and who among true pizza freaks would not be after that?).
I’ve been invited to a bake-off using a wood-fired oven in a couple of weeks time. Looking very forward to seeing how this sourdough base turns out under ideal temperatures.
Re sourdough bread, have a look at my Beginner’s Guide To Baking Sourdough Bread At Home post. Not implying you’re a beginner – rather, in that post you’ll find a link to a recipe for Norwich Sourdough. Not only is it foolproof, but the resulting bread is just gorgeous. I’ve developed another one, even simpler, that is better still – at least to my taste. I’ll be posting it on this site in the near future.
Best of baking to you!
Cheers
R
Mick Porter :
Date: July 22, 2010 @ 9:47 pm
Hi Ross,
Thanks for publishing this in such detail – I’ve read Varasano’s page a few times, and I like the mods you’ve made to his recipe – will try it real soon.
Something that really helped my pizzas (apart from my wood-fired oven) has been moving to Allied Mills “Superb” flour – I know it’s available in WA; it’s amazing value (around $13 for 12.5 kg) and just brilliant for pizza dough.
Cheers,
Mick, Brisbane
Rolan Stein :
Date: July 23, 2010 @ 1:57 pm
G’day Mick, and thanks for your comments.
Yes, I’ve been meaning to buy a bag of Allied’s flour ever since I noticed it in the background of a photo accompanying a feature article on Little Caesar’s pizzas. I figured that if it’s the flour of choice for an award-winning pizza place like that, it has to be good. Your comments have just re-inspired me to seek out a bag and give it a go.
Out of interest, what other flours have you tried?
Yes, I know how much difference a WFO can make. Good on you for building your own – looks great. It’s been a dream of mine for years to have a backyard WFO, but recently I’ve been wondering if it’s worth the effort. Don’t get me wrong – I have no doubt about the magnificent results of wood-fired heat. I just have some doubts as to how much I’d actually use it, given the learning curve and long prep time prior to a bake.
In the States, there are some councils that provide community WFOs. Now THAT’S an idea for some local bodies…but I fear they’re more committed to impressing themselves leaving their mark on their local communities with coloured street signs, sculptures that no one likes and public exercise equipment that no one uses more than once…oh well, it’s only rate-payers bucks!
I just had a quick look over your blog – we have some shared values.
All the best!
R
Mick Porter :
Date: July 26, 2010 @ 7:35 pm
Just about to mix up my first batch of your recipe tonight
I’ve been using an IDY biga prior to this – can’t wait to try the sourdough.
Apparently the place to get the Allied Mills Superb is Variety Foods in Perth – you really should check it out! I’ve used most of the flours available in the mainstream supermarkets but Superb blows them away.
I find the wood-fired oven not too bad to manage. It takes about an hour to get pizza-hot, but the pizzas cook so fast so you can feed a stack of people really quickly. I’ve baked bread twice, but still getting used to managing that.
Cheers,
Mick